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« on: October 17, 2008, 08:28:17 AM »

Hi,

I'm new to Ichimoku, I have a few questions to ask hope some experience user can help to answer. Let say if both lines cross, Tenkan Sen is going up but Kijun Sen remaind flat, will your trade?

Secondly, if Tenkan Sen and Kijun Sen remain flat will your trade?

Thirdly, if Tenkan Sen remain flat but Kijun Sen going up will you trade?

Fourthly, if both lines cross, and is a big gap in between will your trade?

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 09:25:36 AM »

you need to consider all the parts of ichimoku not just part of it
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 03:11:54 PM »

Hello,

Have you see the Free Ichimoku Video or read the Wiki?

-Manesh
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2008, 10:11:29 PM »

Hi,

Yes I have seen the video. Lets say other signals I have consider, I feel that understanding the kumo furture, span etc.. is quite straight forward.
But the TS and KS I'm abit confuse.

Some Users say used daily charts and weekly charts to trade. I'm not used to it. Can I use a single 1hr chart to trade? I tried using 1hr chart and daily chart, sometime 1hr chart show Bullish for all signals but daily show signals which is bearish, bullish and consolidating.

Which one do I follow?

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 11:16:09 AM »

Hello,

The question you are asking is hard to answer.   Trading strategies have to fit the trader's personality.

A lot of people will trade the lower timeframes but don't want to go against the higher timeframe.

If you want to trade the 1 hour timeframe that is no problem.   However, make sure 240/480 timeframe confirms the same directions as your trade.

My suggestion to you as I make to my students, master trading the daily timeframe first because  it is slower.   If you can trade that timeframe successfully then you can trade the lower timeframe because is like the daily accelerated.

-Manesh
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 09:38:25 AM »

One school of thought is to follow the trend in the higher time frame and look for opportunities to trade in the same direction in the lower time frame.  For example, if daily time frame is trending up, look for opportunities to buy in the lower time frame e.g., 1-hr.  This should provide a higher probability of success as the lower time frame moves with the higher time frame.  Others will do short counter-trend in the lower time frame to take advantage of the short price swing.  It all depends on your style, risk management, trading psychology, etc...  Neither one is a guarantee.  But risk management will keep you from big draw downs.  Trade small.  There's a lot of pairs to trade.
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 08:19:06 PM »

Hello,

That is perfect!   You should not trade against a higher timeframe trend unless you know what you are doing.

-Manesh
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2009, 07:28:07 AM »

I am new to this forum and Ichimoku trading in general.  I would like to view the vedio that is being mentioned in this tread.  I did fill out the information at the website but never received it.  can somebody send me a link to that video?  Thanks
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 08:36:05 AM »

Hello

Did you get it?  If not , send you info directly to mpatel@eiicapital.com

-Manesh
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 09:26:12 PM »

just a question about tenkan sen (TK) and kijun sen (KJ)

FIRST OF ALL, i understand the whole system of ichimoku and what is the meaning of those crosses and others...

TK-KJ CROSS is one of the powerful crosses. but when i look into charts, i find that the TK and KJ LINES may go hand in hand in 2 to 4 periods (depends on which timeframe), and then they separate..

if they stick together for 2-4 periods and then separate, then i entry trade when they separate, i found that it was LATE, of course, i know that CROSS means one line passing through another line..

so, how do you handle this situation? (take an example, the TK is going up and ready to pass through KJ, It is a long singal, simply speaking, however they stick together 2-4 periods..however, i find that once they stick together, no matter how long they stick, a cross must come out eventually. somehow, no false breakout at all)

thx
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 06:44:31 PM »

just a question about tenkan sen (TK) and kijun sen (KJ)

FIRST OF ALL, i understand the whole system of ichimoku and what is the meaning of those crosses and others...

TK-KJ CROSS is one of the powerful crosses. but when i look into charts, i find that the TK and KJ LINES may go hand in hand in 2 to 4 periods (depends on which timeframe), and then they separate..

if they stick together for 2-4 periods and then separate, then i entry trade when they separate, i found that it was LATE, of course, i know that CROSS means one line passing through another line..

so, how do you handle this situation? (take an example, the TK is going up and ready to pass through KJ, It is a long singal, simply speaking, however they stick together 2-4 periods..however, i find that once they stick together, no matter how long they stick, a cross must come out eventually. somehow, no false breakout at all)

thx

I presume you mean as in the attached chart.
Have you tried dropping down time-frames to find earlier crosses?




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