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« on: November 04, 2010, 05:34:49 AM »

Hello Everyone, first time posting here. Greetings Smiley

just wanted to point out, the eurjpy daily chart is almost perfectly aligned for a long position.

price has already crossed the kijun sen, kumo is bullish, chikou span is above the price 26 days ago. The only piece missing is the tenkan sen crossing the kijun sen and that looks like it might happen soon.

anyone in already or looking to get in? Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 05:38:02 AM »

You breached an IKH low: Chikou should break previous Chikou's high (marked by the horizontal line).
About the diagonal line between the two Senkou A Points (could be also Senkou B points of curvature, but those points shold be of the same type): Always draw them, on all time frames. These lines tell you: Attention, the current trend is about to stop or reverse. If price curve crosses that line then the Chikou will turn on contact with that line.
This notion is not part of IKH theorey, but alas the trader who is not aware of it.
If you use the idea of multiple Kumo, posed here by the user tkircsi, you must draw those lines on each and every Kumo you have on the chart. Using these lines is like navigating with a GPS device rather than just a road map.

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 08:41:32 AM »

Could you post more charts for diagonal lines and the multiple kumo?

Very interesting.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 09:36:23 AM »

Wow, thanks for that Amy. I was keeping an eye on the 115.68 level, which is the chikou span level you refer to.

But that line between the two spans is new to me. It would come in very handy.

Thank you for sharing : )
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 03:44:20 AM »

I think that the bullish divergence on the pair on weekly TF is still valid, so eventually the direction is upwards, creating wave 3 from 111 level. But a lot depends on the yen, which turned to be very risky lately.

LUCK

gerald, hre's a sample of dual Kumo system on EURUSD 1h. The ratio is 4:1 on the TF's.
See that yellow line, right after the second point of contact marks the angle of the line and a very good idea of a potential future turning point. After the big short on Friday, a turning point is pretty close. 90% of turning points are marked by the Fractal tool and demonstrate a reversal bar patterns, so when price or Chikou approaches these trend lines one should wait for more confirmations before entering the opposite direction.
By the way, I don't use Tenkan and Kijun sen with my IKH.

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 04:35:27 AM »

I think that the bullish divergence on the pair on weekly TF is still valid, so eventually the direction is upwards, creating wave 3 from 111 level. But a lot depends on the yen, which turned to be very risky lately.

LUCK

It's turned around completely from last week. Price now below the kijun sen and tenkan sen. Chikou span below price.
Price is getting close to the daily kumo now, so we'll see what that brings. Will it turn round and go up, or bounce off the kumo and go up. Or even break through the kumo?

I agree that eventually, we'll have an opportunity to go long. Looks like it might take a while though....
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 05:50:05 AM »

I think that the bullish divergence on the pair on weekly TF is still valid, so eventually the direction is upwards, creating wave 3 from 111 level. But a lot depends on the yen, which turned to be very risky lately.

LUCK

It's turned around completely from last week. Price now below the kijun sen and tenkan sen. Chikou span below price.
Price is getting close to the daily kumo now, so we'll see what that brings. Will it turn round and go up, or bounce off the kumo and go up. Or even break through the kumo?

I agree that eventually, we'll have an opportunity to go long. Looks like it might take a while though....

Sometimes it's not a bad habit to leave al these noisy charts and look just on pure supply and demand over a larger time span.
I find Point and Figure a nice tool to reveal what's going on.
So, here's a PnF chart of the pair. Each box (greens are buy, reds are sell) worth 50 pips and to have a reversal in direction (=creating a new colomn of either "x"s or "0"s) you need to gain 3 boxes on the countertrend, meaning 150 pips for reversal.
That's quite a massive ship to steer, no wonder it looks very much like weekly bar chart.
The first feature that pops to my eyes is the 1000 pips depth (and hence the target too) Head And Shoulders pattern waiting for full construction of the right shoulder, which is 500 pips wide.
Personally I don't trade 50x3 box charts; they look innocent but they can ruin your account in matter of hours, as all Yen pairs can. For trading I use faster charts like 5x3 boxes.
The advantage of 50x3 charts is their simplicity and brightness, plus the lack of noise of intraday movements. While typing this massage the pair sold 35 pips in matter of moments, but that movement feels like a mosquitoe on elephant's skin.
So, this chart by no means transmits long sometimes in the future, but not today, anyhow.

LUCK
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2010, 09:01:52 AM »

Thanks for sharing, Amy Smiley. We'll see how it goes.

Price has already tested the top of the kumo today, but could not break it.....not yet anyway.

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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 11:22:08 AM »

Thanks for sharing, Amy Smiley. We'll see how it goes.

Price has already tested the top of the kumo today, but could not break it.....not yet anyway.



Just bear in mind that bearish trends usually penetrate bullish Kumo downwards and bulliah trends cross bearish Kumo upwards.
Generally speaking, Senkou A is weaker than Senkou B so it is a weaker resistance/support than its counterpart.

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2010, 12:32:57 PM »


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Just bear in mind that bearish trends usually penetrate bullish Kumo downwards and bulliah trends cross bearish Kumo upwards.
Generally speaking, Senkou A is weaker than Senkou B so it is a weaker resistance/support than its counterpart.

LUCK
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Oh yes, I'm aware Span B is stronger than Span A. But Span A provided strong enough support today. We'll see if it will hold.



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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2010, 08:09:35 AM »

Hello

Thanks Amy for responding.

-Manesh
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 07:46:52 AM »

Hello Everyone, first time posting here. Greetings Smiley

just wanted to point out, the eurjpy daily chart is almost perfectly aligned for a long position.

price has already crossed the kijun sen, kumo is bullish, chikou span is above the price 26 days ago. The only piece missing is the tenkan sen crossing the kijun sen and that looks like it might happen soon.

anyone in already or looking to get in? Smiley

A hammer on support of Cikou and Senkou B probably signals the long way back to the Neckline @ ~116 and from there the full target of the pattern is @ 123-124.
However, there is a slingshot (bearish hidden divergence) on USDJPY daily, so there's a real possibility of strengthening the yen
==> meaning short on yen pairs.

LUCK
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 11:06:20 PM »

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EurJpy does look a bit fragile at the moment, but I think there could be some chance for more northbound moves with care - even eventually towards 121.00 - The weekly has a TS/KS cross and Chikou is almost piercing the plot

For a short term bias I quite like the idea of a potential foray towards the 112 area

Best wishes - Arco

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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2010, 09:30:44 PM »

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EurJpy does look a bit fragile at the moment, but I think there could be some chance for more northbound moves with care - even eventually towards 121.00 - The weekly has a TS/KS cross and Chikou is almost piercing the plot

For a short term bias I quite like the idea of a potential foray towards the 112 area

Best wishes - Arco



Hi Arco,

I thought you retired until mid Jan.. As 4 the pair - looks like you were 100% right.

Amy
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2010, 09:47:10 PM »

Hi Amy

Trust all is well with you.

Yes the short term idea "For a short term bias I quite like the idea of a potential foray towards the 112 area " came good with a maximum 80 pips in the following 16 hours.

I'm working until the 17th Dec - then Australia bound for a nice break.

Best wishes -  Arco 

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